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Post by Trevor Andrew on Mar 17, 2024 22:41:25 GMT
ddickerson47Weird! Have you managed to render similar video in the past or are these video types new to you. I know I mentioned to deselect Smart Render to fix any audio sync issue, but now that option should be selected, even so 8 hours for 85% is a long time. Clutching at straws..... Should there be a conflict with your pc graphics and Video Studio, go to Preferences (F6) – Performance tab, deselect the Acceleration options. Try rendering again.
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Post by Trevor Andrew on Mar 17, 2024 23:06:07 GMT
I am wondering if Video Studio just does not like your video files. There is a slight difference in data rate which seems a little odd.
Use a video converter (Handbrake) to convert the video to 1920 x1080 x 29.97 x 20,000kbps.
Or are you able to change the cameras recording settings to use HD 1920 x1080 with a frame rate of 29.97fps, do those render OK.
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Post by ddickerson47 on Mar 18, 2024 0:48:09 GMT
The "new" project has been rendering for at least 3 hours and is at 55%. The video is about 77 minutes long.
If it matters, the HD it is rendering to has 4 TB free. The HD with the source files has 805 GB free
Should I try reinstalling VS?
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Post by ddickerson47 on Mar 18, 2024 1:19:56 GMT
Just saw your responses after I sent my last one.
I've been fighting with VS over the last few weeks and now I can't remember if I got a rendered copy out of the previous week or not.
The Acceleration options were unchecked. I have checked them and trying again. First did a 2-minute preview and it worked now trying the whole thing. Using First Clip.
Something I have not mentioned that I have to end task with Task Manager when is up to 50 - 85% completed range. VS is not responding to any clicks. Right now it is at 9% and the pause button lights up when I cursor over it.
Where is a safe place to download Handbrake?
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Post by Candive on Mar 18, 2024 8:57:46 GMT
Hi ddickerson47 , I can imagine that you are a bit stressed and frustrated with the process since Sunday service has passed and you want to complete the project for your church members. I get it. We need a little more detail. You seem to have two problems with Videostudio; 1. Slow Render 2. Captions appear 6 seconds too early. Can I assume that you are not experiencing any audio synch issues? First would you please provide your computer specifications in your signature like I have below. That would help a lot. Are you shooting in MOV, MP4 or AVCHD? I have a Panasonic that shoots 1080p at 50Mbps and have no problem with VS although my projects are no more than 10 min long. Based on your YouTube video can I assume your church service is around 70 min long? And if you load 70 min of video on the timeline and try export it without any fancy edits or captions, it takes over 8 hours? If you just export only the first 10 min does it take over an hour? Can you conduct that test? - even just 5 min and let us know how long it takes? When I work on a project and want to do a test export, I usually export at a low resolution because its faster. I just want to make sure everything looks ok and is in synch. I'll pick a profile that has say 6 Mbps(6000 kbps) or I'll take a profile and create a new one lowering its kbps to 6000 or less. Once I am happy with the low resolution video, I'll then export the best quality final. Please understand, I export different sections of my project many times to make sure they are right before doing the big final export (eg. 50 Mbps as you have specified) The next step is to add your transitions and other enhancements to determine if they create a bottleneck in exporting. Finally we'll look at this 6 second synch issue with the captions. Lets solve one problem at a time and we'll get there.
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Post by Trevor Andrew on Mar 18, 2024 11:20:45 GMT
Handbrake, I took this url from the help option when running Handbrake. handbrake.fr
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Post by ddickerson47 on Mar 18, 2024 12:57:46 GMT
It took 11 hours but the last render completed. No delays, all tracks in sync. Accel options unchecked. Also changed Proxy file Format from ProRes to Custom per recommendation of Gripps2211. This morning I tried the MPEG-2 at SD(720x480, 15:9, 30p, 8Mbps) and it rendered in less than an hour. Accel options unchecked. Also changed Proxy file Format from ProRes to Custom per recommendation of Gripps2211. But the 6 sec delay is back. The delay first showed up when I inadvertently shifted the Video track to the right by, I guess 6 seconds. When I noticed this I moved it back and saved the project. But ever since the delay keeps appearing in the renders, sometimes? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ??
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Post by Trevor Andrew on Mar 18, 2024 13:37:02 GMT
Good that you are making some progress
I would suggest you try recordings at 29.97 fps rather than 59.94fps to see if those videos render quicker than the 11 hours.
Smart Proxy, some users did have quality issues when rendering with Smart Proxy activated, deselecting Smart Proxy before rendering did cure those issues. Not sure about changing the recommended file type, never had to do that, but if things then so be it.
Opening project files. Do you work with the one project file or create copies as you progress, if so is it possible you are opening an older VSP before you corrected the 6 sec shift. How do you open your projects. From File, at the bottom of the list are 4 last used projects, the top one being the latest used, I tend to use this option.
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Post by Candive on Mar 18, 2024 18:14:22 GMT
Hi Trevor Andrew , When ddickerson47 uses the standard MPEG-2 setting (SD 720x480, 16:9, 30p, 8Mbps) he is exporting 8Mbps at 29.97 fps which takes less than an hour and that is with Hardware encode acceleration turned off in the Sharing tab I assume, unless he is referring to Hardware acceleration in Preferences. Its unclear to me. And he hasn't indicated if he even has a graphics card or at least I haven't read where he posted his system specifications. How much ram is he using? 11 hours seems unreasonable but then again what are his system specs? I assume the 11 hrs export is based on selecting "Same as first clip" which would export the project at 59.94 fps at around 50 Mbps which is double the frame rate and more than 6 times the bit rate of his MPEG-2 export. It still seems too long but then again he is not using any type of acceleration. Trevor Andrew , in your comments, are you referring to "Smart Proxy" in Preferences or "Smart Render" in the Sharing tab? I have yet to find the Gripps2211 video where he recommends switching from ProRes to Custom. ddickerson47 it sounds like you discovered the issue with the 6 second delay - you inadvertently shifted the video track. As Trevor Andrew has suggested, work in stages and save sequential versions of your project. For example Chruch_240317_01, Church_240317_02, Church_240317_03 etc. This way if you mess up in your current version you can always go back to the previous version and start again. When you are happy with your project, save the last one and delete the previous ones. With my projects I usually create at least 5 versions if not more.
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Post by Trevor Andrew on Mar 18, 2024 19:27:45 GMT
CandiveJust to clarify..... It was ddickerson47 that first mentioned Smart Proxy, however SP should not have any effect when rendering, at least that’s how I understand it. In my previous reply I commented on Smart Proxy All my earlier comments referred to Smart Render, yes quite easy to get confused with Smart Proxy. A little concerned in using 1920 x 1080 with 59.97 frame rates, I would think 29.97 fps may be more appropriate. Then the data rates given for the video and project settings are a little different, I would expect those to be the same.
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Post by Candive on Mar 18, 2024 20:44:22 GMT
Hi Trevor Andrew , Thanks for the clarification. I'm not too concerned that ddickerson47 is shooting at 59.97 fps (NSTC). My Panasonic (PAL) shoots 1920 x 1080 at 50 fps and I never experienced any super long exports although I tend to use 28Mbps rather than the 50Mbps setting. Also I usually export at 20 - 25Mbps for my high quality videos. I could shoot a straight 70 min at 50 Mbps and throw that on the timeline to verify how long it would take. Export time is really subject to computer hardware and I don't think ddickerson47 has listed his specs for us to review.
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Post by ddickerson47 on Mar 19, 2024 1:59:02 GMT
Is this the spec info you need? I had shared it with Corel Support back in February and had not thought about it here, sorry.
Hardware Configuration: OEM ID: 9 Processors 16 Processor Type 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11700K @ 3.60GHz MMX Support Yes GPU 0: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
Memory / Drive Status: Memory Load Index 35 % Total Physical Memory 31.79 GB Available Physical Memory 20.47 GB Total Paging Memory 36.54 GB Available Paging Memory 19.06 GB Total Managed Memory 0 KB Total Handles: 1616
Video Driver Information: Bits Per Pixel 32 Number of Colors 16777216 DIB Output 24 BPP Palette Size Non-Paletted Resolution 1920 x 1080
Operating System Information: Operating System Windows 11
Plug-in Information Filter Plug-ins Loaded 65 Transitions Plug-ins Loaded 161
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Post by Candive on Mar 19, 2024 8:24:30 GMT
Hi ddickerson47 , Thanks for the system specs. Your machine is more than adequate to handle the projects your are doing. Today, I went out with my Panasonic camcorder (PAL) and shot 15 min continuously at 1920x1080p 50fps and 50Mbps. Your Panasonic is NTSC and shoots at 60fps (59.97). Different but no big deal. I exported the clip using "Same as first clip" No tick to enable Smart Render (it sometimes causes problems) and ticked Enable Hardware encode acceleration and selected my graphics card (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070). The 15 min clip exported in 5:07 minutes. I then loaded the clip 4 times on the timeline to make it one hour long. It exported in 20:28 minutes. I then exported in MPEG-2 720x576 16:9 25p 8Mbps. This is PAL stadard definition which has more lines than NTSC but is basically the same. The single 15 min clip exported 9:30 min and the one hour 37:53 min. Your machine should be producing close to these results. Please note, I did not add any titles, transitions, overlays or captions. If I did, I suspect it would increase the export time -in minutes; not hours. Why did it take longer to export the lower resolution MPEG-2 movie rather than the high definition movie? Selecting "Same as first clip" you are not transcoding anything. It is basically making a copy of the video. But, converting it to MPEG-2, the system has to do a little bit of work. I wonder if you need to update your graphics driver. Is your computer branded or custom built? If it is branded like Lenovo, it should have an application like Lenovo Vantage where you can update your drivers to the manufacturer's specification.
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Post by Trevor Andrew on Mar 19, 2024 9:36:52 GMT
ddickerson47Can you confirm which type of Video you are using? Your camera as far as I can see can record Mov, Mpeg4, and Avchd, the latter I believe will create MTS type files. What you choose to use would rely on your audience, sharing to YouTube and Mpeg 4 is a popular choice although the other options also work. As you are burning discs I would opt for the Avchd option as those can be Bluray compliant, then easily converted to DVD Mpeg2.
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Post by ddickerson47 on Mar 19, 2024 12:10:22 GMT
Trevor, is this the file info you were asking for. ![](//storage.proboards.com/7370495/thumbnailer/NeWEvyemSoCBlciBXZti.png)
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