tanguero
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Post by tanguero on Feb 17, 2024 14:28:07 GMT
In the sound timeline view (when Sound Mixer is activated), the yellow volume control line and its associated control nodes appear to be adjusted in dB, from -36 dB to +12 dB. This means that I cannot fade to silence using this mechanism (or any other that I've found within VideoStudio). Illogically (to me) the volume level setting for the entire clip (set via the Attribute tab) is a linear number between 0 and 500, where 0 is indeed complete silence, but of course that applies to the entire clip and not parts.
Seems that it would have been better to have the volume control line also adjust from 0% to 500% rather than -36 dB to +12 dB. Is there a secret setting to make this control linear? Or some other way to do what I want? None of the audio filters seem to have this option either and besides seem to apply always to the entire clip. At -36 dB, the volume is indeed very much attenuated but still quite audible.
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Post by Trevor Andrew on Feb 17, 2024 16:25:55 GMT
Hi tanguero This is a known issue and has been raised over the years, they did improve things when changing the lower level from -36 to -60 I guess the question is what version are you working with?
You may be able to acheive a full mute fade by adjusting outside the sound mixer?
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Post by tanguero on Feb 17, 2024 17:08:37 GMT
Thanks Trevor, I am (still) on V8, which would explain my not having the range to -60 (and indeed that is probably low enough to be inaudible though it would still seem much easier and logical for most people just to have retained the same 0-500% they have for clip level, but I guess these days with Alludo's unpredictability that's the least of the VS problems ...).
But I'm curious: what are you referring to when you mention "adjusting sound outside the sound mixer"? Where else is there to adjust sound at the sub-clip level of granularity to do things like fades?
Right now, the best I can do is to fade to -36 dB, then cut the clip to create a sub-clip of the -36 dB ("almost zero") segment and then mute that sub-clip. Ugly at more than one level but ok, it kind of does what I want, and the transition from -36 dB to true zero is only slightly noticeable (and would be less so from -60), but creating all these cuts for something as simple as fading to silence is very kludgy! But it seems you may have a better idea?
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Post by Trevor Andrew on Feb 17, 2024 17:26:08 GMT
What is V8, there was a Ulead VS8, a CVSX8 and CVS2018 I assume CVSX8
I have X9 installed, first clear any settings applied by the Sound Mixer If you double click any clip it opens the Options Panel replacing the library view. Here we have some audio settings, fade ramps and a 100% volume level. try working with those.
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Post by tanguero on Feb 17, 2024 18:27:06 GMT
What is V8, there was a Ulead VS8, a CVSX8 and CVS2018 Corel Video Studio Ultimate X8. Sorry, thought it was evident from context. No, these are the same as Attributes tab in the Sound Mixer view, just different shortcuts to the same functionality. The fade ramps are just preset macros for -10 dB 1 second fades which can then be edited in the audio timeline but with the same -36 dB limitation. And the volume level is the same as the one I referred to earlier that goes from 0-500% but only applies to the entire clip. So I guess for now your earlier answer still applies, that the best I can do is to get down to -60 dB if I decide to upgrade some day.
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Post by Ken Berry on Feb 17, 2024 18:41:54 GMT
Video Studio has never been very good on the audio editing side of things, and the move to -60 was in that sense a major step. When I really need to play around with audio, I will usually export the audio section I am wanting to edit, and open it in Audacity, the freeware audio editing program, which gives you an enormous range of editing possibilities. That should allow you to lower the volume to zero. Then reinsert the audio back into VS.
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Post by Trevor Andrew on Feb 17, 2024 19:09:08 GMT
The auto music applies the sound levels when in project mode whereas the other audio options apply the effect in clip mode. If you use one of the sample audio clips, cut the clip in half. Apply a -36 level to one half, then close the sound mixer, double click the second half to set 0%, play the project, for me there is a difference in volume levels. Video Studio Pro 2023, PSP... there is a good deal to purchase the software from Humble Bundle www.humblebundle.com/software5 days left. Maybe worth a look if you are thinking of updating, note these are the pro versions not ultimate
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Post by Ken Berry on Feb 17, 2024 19:37:53 GMT
And remember that the version of VS is the same in both the Pro and Ultimate versions. With the Ultimate you get the extra plug-ins but VS is the same.
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